Dr. Mariana Bozesan and Dr. Anneloes Smitsman interview:
Gerard Barron, Daniel Schmachtenberger

Abundant clean energy is central to the decarbonization of the global economy and to closing the loop of the materials economy. But the production of wind, solar, and geothermal power, as well as energy storage requires massive amounts of natural resources such as lithium, cobalt, nickel, and copper, to name a few. Unfortunately, the best land ores have already been mined, and new resources come from rainforests and pristine landscapes where mining generates large toxic mining waste by-products. So, thinking harder to (1) meet the growing demand for the energy transition metals, (2) circumvent the destruction of the most biodiverse carbon sinks on the planet, and (3) avoid the robbing of indigenous communities by pushing them out of their home habitats is essential.

The main question remains:

How can humanity close the resource gap to achieve the transition to a decarbonized economy by 2050?

To address this question, I am in conversation with:

  • Gerard Barron, the CEO and Founder of The Metals Company, that is enabling the battery power shift to clean energy and electric vehicles with the lightest planetary touch. Gerard’s mission is to help transition Earth from fossil fuels toward a circular resource economy. 
  • Daniel Schmachtenberger, a brilliant thinker, the founder of the Civilization Research Initiative, and an internationally recognized strategic advisor on catastrophic risk, exponential tech, and coordination challenges. 
  • My co-interviewer is systems scientist and futurist, Dr. Anneloes Smitsman

Full disclosure: I was so impressed with the philosophy and positive impact of The Metals Company, that I purchased their stock after the interview.

Click on the button to load the content from w.soundcloud.com.

Load content

Gerard Barron: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerardbarron/
The Metals Company: https://metals.co/
Daniel Schmachtenberger: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielschmachtenberger/
The Civilization Research Initiative, The Consilience Project: https://consilienceproject.org/
Dr. Anneloes Smitsman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anneloes-smitsman/

Podcast episode #71 with Daniel Schmachtenberger “On Meta Crisis, Anti Fragility, and Global Coordination”: https://youtu.be/zQ0l56vjTss
The Metals Company:  https://vimeo.com/766832381 and https://vimeo.com/user79094991

BOOK Integral Investing:
Book website: https://aqalgroup.com/book-integral-investing/

Podcast website: https://aqalgroup.com/podcast
Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/33nb8Oi
Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2ZumnmD
Overcast: https://bit.ly/2FwkBuo
SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/investmentwende
Amazon Music: https://amzn.to/3oGDb4E
Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/MarianaBozesan-IntegralInvesting

Mariana’s newsletter: https://aqalgroup.com/newsletter
Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/MarianaBozesan-IntegralInvesting
Twitter: https://twitter.com/AQAL_Investing
Twitter: https://twitter.com/MarianaBozesan
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marianabozesan/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mariana.bozesan
Medium: https://medium.com/@mariana.bozesan

DISCLAIMER: The AQAL Foundation informs our listeners that the views, thoughts, and opinions expressed by the interviewees of our Investment Turnaround Podcast belong solely to the author and do not represent the views nor the opinions of the AQAL Foundation, its founders, or other associated group of individual.

Narrated by Albert Bozesan, produced by Peak State Entertainment